Seller Club Podcast
Seller Club Podcast
Episode 52: Beyond the Bills
Today we are discussing a big question: if all your financial needs were taken care of, would you keep doing what you do for work or in life?
We talk about the difference between working out of necessity versus working out of passion.
We discuss whether, if we didn’t have to worry about money, we might be doing something totally different with our time.
Legacy and purpose make appearances in this discussion as well, and we hope you come along for the ride and consider your own take on all of this and more!
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Yo yo yo, what is up everybody? Episode 52, mindset episode. We're gonna talk about some really, really serious stuff in this episode. But first, drop that feet. Anna Glenn, how are you?
SPEAKER_00:Hey Ken.
SPEAKER_03:Hello.
SPEAKER_00:We're good.
SPEAKER_02:How are we doing?
SPEAKER_00:Think we're pretty good. I think we're making it.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:This is a serious episode, so we're not gonna make any jokes. We're not gonna talk about anything. Laughing. No laughing matters. I don't know. Just serious.
SPEAKER_00:I feel like I always end up snickering, giggling, or just laughing out loud within the first like 10 seconds of every episode because you guys are funny.
SPEAKER_02:Or throwing some random joke that me and Ken have to really think about to make the make our brains work and function.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, that's some figure of speech.
SPEAKER_00:Too smart for us. Some riddle, some words. Yeah, someone's gonna know me.
SPEAKER_03:Some pop culture reference that I don't get.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, that's my favorite. I'm yeah, I'm just now anytime I hear a pop culture reference, I think we can get that.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. No Seinfeld today. Yeah, before I could just laugh it off, and then now Anna just looks at me and is like, did he get that? Or he's just faking it. And then now he's just he she just knows that I faked it. Yeah, that's you know, that's that's um uh it's a survival skill. It's a survival skill for an immigrant that didn't grow up here.
SPEAKER_00:You're like, oh yeah, haha, sandlot. Yeah, I get it.
SPEAKER_03:Shallow how I watched it last week.
SPEAKER_00:Did you watch it?
SPEAKER_03:No, what is that?
SPEAKER_02:We just come up before. Yeah. Yeah, Tony Robbins.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, oh, oh, oh. Oh yeah, Tony Robbins. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_02:That's why it came up. Yeah, that's why you came up.
SPEAKER_00:Well, that's perfect for a mindset episode.
SPEAKER_02:True, very true.
SPEAKER_00:We get we should get good at impressions and do like a whole episode as like in character as someone like Tony Robbins.
SPEAKER_03:Glenn knows.
SPEAKER_00:Glenn knows how to are you secretly really good at impressions? Yeah, he is.
SPEAKER_02:I can try. I can try to try to do that like Gary V, squeaky. Just kidding. I'm not gonna do that one.
SPEAKER_03:No, you can't. Come on now. You can't.
SPEAKER_02:We'll try to figure out what uh leave Gary Vux.
SPEAKER_03:The guy's still grinding, man. He is. He was on whatnot earlier.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, you want?
SPEAKER_03:Really? Yeah, dude. And man, talk about a personality that fits the platform. That he probably would being a CEO and be like, I'm just gonna be on a streamer now.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, we're gonna do it.
SPEAKER_03:I'm gonna show you how it's done in 2024. Get off your couch and turn a cell phone on and sell stuff around your house you don't need. Are you kidding me?
SPEAKER_02:No, that was a good impression.
SPEAKER_03:Are you kidding me?
SPEAKER_00:Are you kidding me? No expletives. That's good.
SPEAKER_02:Family friendly show. Family friendly. Yeah, family friendly. Alright, so beyond the bills, Kenny. This is your topic, so.
SPEAKER_03:No, no, no, no, no, no. So, so, so, and a preface how it just all came along.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, well, every once in a while we have a good old-fashioned brainstorm about like topics or just you know, general things going on in our lives that we're like, oh, that'd be a good episode. This is actually Glenn's idea. Yeah. He didn't necessarily name it beyond the bills, but it's a great topic because I think it really gets to the heart of uh our purpose and kind of our choices about how we spend our time, which is our life. Right. So um basically the quest the fundamental question is if all of your bills were paid, like money were no object, you know, pretend you were for for you know, by whatever mechanism. Maybe you're a trust fund baby, right? And you have enough money for your whole life, you all of your basic needs are covered, all your bills are paid. Would you keep doing what you're doing?
SPEAKER_03:This is an interesting question because I thought about Glenn right off the right rip when we when we came up with this title, and I was like, man, I wonder if he's gonna stream more and whatnot.
SPEAKER_00:Where would Glenn channel all of his consistency if it wasn't into a business?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, that is true. What does he do? Because uh yeah, like beyond the bills, right? I think I think I've spoken to a lot of people asking them the questions like you know, why do you do what you do? And a lot of people is like, oh, um I have bills to pay. Right? Like I think a lot of um that's kind of like uh it's a very Western uh quick answer, actually, right? W will that is that correct? Like, right? Like uh I gotta go, I gotta work because I got bills to pay. So it feels like it's kind of like uh um uh built in line. It's the rat race, right? Like the bills never stop coming. And I don't know who invented that, but at some point But I don't like it.
SPEAKER_02:And here's the thing though, Kenny Kenny is good that you know, like when we would go to restaurants and Ken's asking the waiter and waitresses questions about their life and what excites them every day. These are the conversations we need. And truthfully, I hate I hate the little small talk. Like, hey, how's work? Oh, that's good. Hey, how's life? Oh, that's fine. I'm like, this leads nowhere. No, let's get into the deep conversations pointless, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Exactly. I I pleasant change.
SPEAKER_03:So over the weekend, I was at um I went went and visited Anna. She had a housewarming, and we were there, and she had a bunch of friends and a lot of It was so fun.
SPEAKER_00:It was really a party for all the people who busted their butts helping us move. That's what it was. Including Ken, because they came to the money.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, so that's why you Glenn wasn't there because he didn't have Anna move.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, you're you weren't invited.
SPEAKER_03:So I was there, and um I I was about I was like, I uh that's what I felt, Glenn. Like I felt like I was in a restaurant full of random people.
SPEAKER_00:Because like, I mean, you know, like you didn't know any of my friends.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, and then Anna's deep into, you know, like they've had years of relationships and especially going back to her hometown just so she's known these people. And then I always say Anna's like, hey, who's this one? Oh, this is the one that you know that lives next door. Oh, who's this one? Oh, this is the one that made that that uh pickle jam, smoke jelly, yeah, pepper jelly, baby. So yeah, answer uh tell tell Glenn about this product. I think you might like this.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, the pepper jelly?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, this is so legit. So my good friend, I could tell you all the hometown connections we have, but we're good friends most first and foremost. She um I will say one, I was actually in her wedding. So when I was like still a junior or senior in high school, I was in her wedding. She's a little older than me. But she and her husband started a company called Smokehouse Jellies, and they smoke all the fruit like in a smoker, like blackberries or peaches, or there's all kinds of different fruit. They have a bunch of different kinds, and then they add habaneros to it and make jelly, so it's like smoky and kind of spicy. Spicy, yeah, yeah, and like super spicy and amazing flavor.
SPEAKER_03:We might we we definitely have to get Glenn this one. I'm sure it's all vegan, right? Because it's fruits and peppers, like and bread. I gotta try this.
SPEAKER_00:Um it's so good. So I saw it, right? I've actually helped run their booth at like vendor events and stuff before, so I'm I can like give you the whole spiel, but it's literally so good. So I had the blackberry one at this housewarming party, and we were all for fun.
SPEAKER_03:So I saw it and I was like, I saw some breeches and some apples, and I was like, oh, I'm gonna try this one. And then the product was so good, I was like, I can't wait for this people to come through. Because I was like, the product's good. I was like, I'm gonna ask them my best to look at this guy. He hasn't even met him yet.
SPEAKER_00:They would love to hear that. No, no, no, for real. They were they came straight from looking at a building that they were considering buying to like put in a commercial kitchen.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, so so they're trying to like grow Glenn. Yeah, and then I just literally leaned over and I was like, I just bring what what's his name? Right. Forgive me. Ryan. And I was just literally grilling him. And Ryan's like just straight shooter, too. Like he he doesn't like he doesn't weave in his answers, he just says it. And and I I just start asking him like so like you know, like, what happens when passion become when you lose a passion of doing something that you really like because you've done it for so long. And we just literally like kind of like circled and had a conversation around how around that. Because a lot of times talking about bills, right? You have something you do to pay the bills. But quote unquote, the dream is to do something you love and get paid for it, then you're living the dream. But once you're doing it, I can tell you from experience for the first few years it is the dream. But after that, there is a point of fading of like. Yeah, yeah, the the sweetness falls off. The excitement of new thing because it's not new, and there's like levels to it, right? Okay, kinda just like okay, buying buying sneakers, right? You start buying a hundred dollar sneakers, and just as a collector, it's like, oh this is amazing. Then you spend two hundred bucks, then you spent three hundred, four or five, and at one point I spent like fifteen hundred. And I couldn't it was a point that I could never wear the shoe anymore because in my mind there was just a block, it's like yo, like if you wear this, too risky, you can only sell this for a thousand. You know, it's like there's a quick depreciation of a used rare pair compared to the brand new rare pair. And and I I going back to the original statement, I think it it's uh good and bad thing because the thing that you once loved doing, if money is attached to it and money becomes a measure of success to that something that you love, at what point do you lose that excitement because all of a sudden if you've reached your money goal and the next steps are way bigger, and next steps are let's just say for them, right? Like, okay, let's you started at a house, you started at an uh a rented facility, now you're thinking about purchasing a giant warehouse. That's a huge leap.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, right?
SPEAKER_03:And then and then like I'm thinking about myself, like I started uh, you know, my my bedroom and my two-bedroom apartment, now at this house, and then you take a big leap. Like what's what's the next step? Like warehouse, and then now I'm thinking about it like whoa, like that's a lot. I mean me and Glenn have conversations like that's um you're gonna be a manager, basically, right? Like you're you're you're gonna be a manager of your business that you love doing, but at the end of the day, you really don't get to do what you love now because you're just telling people what to do. So that's uh kind of like you know, the question that like wait, so if we're here to pay the bills, will we keep doing what we're doing if everything's paid off? Now, I mean obviously there's levels to it. What what's your uh that was just the intro, guys.
SPEAKER_02:There's layers to this cake.
unknown:Huh?
SPEAKER_03:So many layers, seven layers. So many layers to this cake. That was just though, kind of like the the the foundational ingredients. So we just like talked about the eggs, the flour, the the sugar. Glenn, what what's your take on that one?
SPEAKER_02:I was just thinking about like the at the party, I guess. Like I'm pretty sure Anna's friends are like, who's this Filipino spy asking all these questions?
SPEAKER_00:No, everyone's like, is this the sneaker one? Is this a bee?
SPEAKER_03:I was um I was heard of it. I was um I was minimized to a shoe that people underfeed. Or a little itty-bitty insect. So that was a choice. Yeah, so when they saw me, you know, I f I you know, like they were impressed. Oh, this guy doesn't smell like a bee. And number two, this like this guy doesn't sting like a bee.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, yeah, so you know, I had the edge.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I like that.
SPEAKER_00:I like that's there's gotta be a new tagline in there for you somewhere. I love it.
SPEAKER_02:So these well, this is a good question, and it's kind of funny that you mentioned this because um, so this next payment will be my last on this house.
SPEAKER_00:Oh my gosh, you buried the lead, Glenn. That is huge.
SPEAKER_02:Wow. So I don't have any bills, but I'm kind of confused on what I am kind of a weird in a weird situation to where I'm like, hey, well, I mean, I technically don't have to go hard in the paint on what not to sell or on the on eBay really. I mean, I could kind of slow down.
SPEAKER_03:You could just be uh a Hollywood actor now.
unknown:Actor.
SPEAKER_02:But I'm kind of like, what what should I do? Or like what I mean I don't it is kind of confusing, like what Ken said, it's kind of good and it's kind of bad in a way. I don't know.
SPEAKER_00:Well, it can be it can be kind of disorienting, right? Because you're like, this was a no-brainer for so long because like you said, like I got bills to pay, like we all got bills to pay. Except for Glenn, apparently now. Yeah, yeah. Not next week, next week. Next week never seen it.
SPEAKER_01:Next week the door.
SPEAKER_00:But but let me give you some options, which I'm sure you've already thought about all these options, but for the sake of the conversation, it's like, okay, like let's just play it out a little bit. Let's say that it's not that you don't have bills, it's just that they're covered, they're like indefinitely covered.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:But that doesn't mean you won't have unexpected expenses, elective expenses, maybe you want to see the world, maybe you want to leave a giant legacy of wealth for your kids, like you know, like there's other goals that you might have that are still financial outside of making sure that you have like a baseline of security with all your bills getting paid. So, you know, and being like a business person, I imagine that a lot of those things have been have been in your mind, right? Like, even as you've been approaching this for a while. Um still such a huge amazing milestone. Like, that's so great. I'm so happy for you.
SPEAKER_02:Uh, thank you. Well, I feel like it's kind of like when I first paid off my student loans, though, because that was my main goal to start off with was like give value back on the YouTube channel, pay off the student loans.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And when I did pay them off, it almost felt like nothing happened, right? Like it you paid it, like you know, no one was congratulating me on the case. You didn't get a mail. Yeah, a plaque. Hey.
SPEAKER_00:Sally maybe I'm sour about it, if we're being honest.
SPEAKER_02:You know, like nothing. Exactly. Like nothing changed there, and it felt very weird because you know, you feel proud of it, but in reality, you just keep going. Well, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And with goals, like 90% of enjoyment is anticipation.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, exactly. That's true.
SPEAKER_00:Once you reach it, it's like now what? You know, like that's which is a really disorienting and totally normal experience for people when they actually hit their goals.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, that that is that is a real question. Uh, what about you, Anna? What's your intro to this?
SPEAKER_00:My intro to this? Well, I think it it immediately makes me think of a conversation I've had uh over and over with a lot of uh friends who are who do quote unquote like artistic things for a living, like maybe they're musicians, they're like you know, they play live for a living or they're art paint painters or whatever.
SPEAKER_03:So they're not very kind of like the typical uh fixed income. Right.
SPEAKER_00:Maybe so, but more so the angle of like when you when you put the pressure on your art to provide for you, how that kind of changes your relationship to it.
SPEAKER_03:Yep.
SPEAKER_00:Um but you know I think that can somewhat be expanded to the general idea of like things that you're passionate about. But for me, I mean I love this question because like I have grown to like really love eBay and like bit totally nerd it out about e-commerce and you know the lifestyle stuff that comes with selling used mostly used things online. But honestly, like I did not start it because I was just so passionate about selling stuff on the internet, like it was totally a means to an end.
SPEAKER_03:It was like a side gig to fuel what you were doing.
SPEAKER_00:Yes, and like I've grown to love it, but even today, even though I have grown to love it in a way I never expected to, it still is providing me with like flexibility and mental bandwidth and creativity that I otherwise just wouldn't have the capacity for to do things that don't pay me. So it so I am partially living it already.
SPEAKER_03:So you have like a higher ROI of return for your time investment on the e-commerce. I think that's all of us uh that are starting a business that is in a business because in somewhat some way we are reaping the benefits of like external factors, like you said, bandwidth, right? Like I don't have like Glen's experience, I don't have to worry about co-workers uh not doing their part, then it burdens me, or having to answer with bosses. Um for me, I you know, like my experience about like you know, bit uh like uh just the hitting glass ceilings in a corporate world where you have to like do all the external factors to even get considered to get promoted. Like I didn't want that side of it. Um but but that is that is true. Like when you put pressure of an art, right? Like I see business, I see business as creativity, right? It's uh it's a creative way of making a living. Um and if you put pressure it could, you know, it could turn into a diamond and you know, p shine and provide for you. Uh for example, like Glenn's huge milestone that's coming up, he literally put pressure on this thing and poof, it became a house, right? Like a paid-off house. Uh poof, it became a paid-off student loan. Just that easy, Glenn. No, no, no, no, no. It's like so now Glenn's scaring me of paying scaring me of me paying off my house fast. Yeah. I'm I'm sh I'm not gonna pay off my house fast. I'm just gonna pay off everything and leave the house and slow.
SPEAKER_00:Depends on your interest rate. That's the whole other problem.
SPEAKER_03:No, no, no, no, no. Glenn, stop. Like, this is not about numbers. This is about help, you know, like mental health and uh really uh finding our own purpose. So okay, let's let's move on. Let's move on to uh um we gave our intros.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah. So so I think like I want to ask you guys this, just like thinking about your daily life and how you actually spend your time. And maybe I mean I'm sure it varies across all of us, like how much of our daily life we actually spend on our businesses, and it varies, you know, individually too. Like one day does not necessarily look like the next, except for Glenn King of Consistency. But but you know, like just think about I want you to think about this from like the from the perspective of what's a day in your life look like if all if all your bills are like not a concern for you.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, Anna, let me cive you out to it. Uh beef because on your day in your life, I want to ask us three before we probably dive in deeper is what's the favorite task or event in your day that you have fell in love the most recently, probably let's say last six months. Because obviously all of us have kinda like gone through phases and I think yeah, three to six months. What what has it been? Um and I've thought about this answer because I've thought about the thing like, okay, if everything's paid off, I still want to continue doing this. Because this gives me the most enjoyment, although it doesn't really relate much to making money, but it fills the happiness cup or container. Um so what I've what I've found out recently is I love waking up at 8 30 in the morning.
SPEAKER_02:Just that's the magic time.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, it's just like the body feels good, the mind feels good. Yeah, and it's just like something about like waking up with the sun. Like so I've I've been I've been loving that, right? And then that that kind of like peaceful like transition of trying to get through your day and d those moments is like kind of like I I walk through my day, it's like okay, this is what I'm gonna do, this is what I have, and you know, whether I get excited on the task, it's just that okay, I get a chance to start something again or continue something that I worked on. Um the other thing is I've love looking at my aquariums and looking at my plants in there. It's so serene. So that's even a plant watcher. Who knows? I'm a plant watcher. Uh today I kind of trimmed some of them because they were poking up top and I replanted them. Um propagated some. Yeah, so I'm propagating aquatic plants, which I never I I was making fun of my mom because she became a plant plant mom uh over COVID. And um, like my I was like telling her, like, mom, our house is becoming a jungle now, and then all of a sudden I have jungle in the tank. And she's laughing at me now. Um that and then uh I think the working on our health, uh working out has been like a top uh really good thing. And then having the time to cook those are like the the things that I've enjoyed the most recently. And now having to worry, it's like oh I need to rush cooking, or I need to like, oh let's just go take up. It's like the I feel like the only reason why I would wanna do takeout because quote unquote I don't have time, or I didn't have enough time to prep enough, to think enough, or my brain's just fried. I don't want to think about having to make dinner. So that's my that's my job.
SPEAKER_00:Or there's a den Typhon nearby.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_02:What about you, Glenn? Well, today I woke up at 6.05 and it was dark and it felt weird.
SPEAKER_03:Wait, wait, wait. So you don't wake up at 6.05?
SPEAKER_02:No. Okay. And I woke up and I'm like, what am I doing? And then I don't know, like, my body was up, but it feels weird when it's dark. Like it feels kind of like sad, kinda. Or like I do I do like the sun being out when you wake up though. You have a little bit more energy there. Okay. Um but to answer your question. Um, I'd probably say I equally love working out as much as I equally love the rest day of not working out.
SPEAKER_03:Oh.
SPEAKER_02:So I love that.
SPEAKER_03:That's good. That's a good face to be in, right?
SPEAKER_02:It's like Yeah. I mean I love going, but then Wednesday has really helped me to be, you know, to spend like that family day to where I don't have to go. And that's don't have to be. Oh, yeah, see. Yeah, Wednesday I think is perfect for that. It's like the hunk. Yeah, hump day. Like it's Yeah, exactly. So I love both equally, I'll probably say. But I can tell you that I have been struggling like on the rest days when I go with the family and stuff, because I do feel like and she feels it too. Sometimes I feel like I kind of rush her. Because I'm always constantly.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, you're always on the clock. Like you're always calling it.
SPEAKER_02:In my own head. I'm always calling.
SPEAKER_03:But you don't have anything, but you feel like you have to get stuff like that.
SPEAKER_02:Like I have to move on to the next thing, whatever that thing is. And so I don't know.
SPEAKER_03:It's like, oh, let's get Starbucks. Alright, five minutes is up. Let's move to the next door.
SPEAKER_00:Little antsy.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:It is really hard though to switch gears from one day to the next day. To like, you know what I mean? Like, I feel like that when I go on vacation, which is not very often, but it takes me like days to even like reorient myself to like there is no schedule.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:It's hard.
SPEAKER_02:I mean, like those days that me and Ken would go to Out Hustle, and I think it was the Houston one that we had gone to like 30-something stores that had some sort of record there, I would think, because it was like non-stop, and I felt and Ken probably felt fine. Like I felt like it was just like a natural thing. Like we were not tired, we're just like on to the next.
SPEAKER_03:It was like uh 9 to 2 a.m., something like that, because Ross before COVID, Ross used to close at 2 a.m. or something like that. Yeah, this is crazy.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, Ross. Oh my god. So it was just like an all-day event. And I remember even going when I went when me and the wife did go to New York, like I don't know, like I felt good. Like people were just constantly moving and doing things.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And I was like, what? Like this is totally different from El Paso. El Paso's like so laid back that like you know, you can even order something and it may not even get to you on time or so chill, so laid back. And I'm like, this is cool. Like, people are I don't know, they have goals and they want to do things.
SPEAKER_00:Well, you're not you're not called lollygagger hacks to be fair. You're called a hustler hacks for a reason.
SPEAKER_02:Oh man. So now to answer your other question, what motivates you right now, but what has always motivated me though was freedom.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And that's another thing that I struggle with when it comes to like Now you have freedom, what do you do?
SPEAKER_03:I know. Yeah, that's I make a schedule.
SPEAKER_02:Make a schedule to get me to not have the freedom. But you know what I struggle with though is like to do ads, and like obviously we've seen that too, but like I guess anything to have me to do something that I don't have control over I struggle with.
SPEAKER_03:He he wants he wants to be the director, the producer, the filmmaker, the actor, the light holder, everything. Yeah. That that is actually creative freedom. Yeah, that yeah, that total freedom, which is I don't know how you do it, but um that is that is actually um could be the downside of being so independent for so long. Yeah, that that it's hard, right? Because especially with stuff that you know you could do better.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:And that's the hard part. Like, like, like listening and taking photos, like taking photos, you cannot like me up till now, like me and JC still fights who takes the better photo because we're really passionate about it. Yeah. And and um, and it's like now imagine bringing in somebody that just like, oh, I'll take 12 photos and just like bam bam bam bam bam slaps them up there. And then I'm like, You're done with 12 photos? It's like, yeah, I done all three pairs. And like, you know, like oh what a disrespect. You're disrespecting the art of taking photo. I was like, so no, I I get it. I get it. What about you, Anna? What's your answer to that?
SPEAKER_00:What was the question?
SPEAKER_03:Um, what's your f what's been your favorite uh daily daily tasks?
SPEAKER_00:Man, there definitely are um several things. Like, I feel like a lot of what both of you guys said resonated with me, but you know, being in a new house and kind of a new situation, my favorite little ritual that has developed is having my coffee in front of like the fire in the fireplace in the morning. Now it's like cold enough to do that.
SPEAKER_03:Sounds cozy. And as the make your pot coffee person, grind your bean person. Yeah, grind your beans. Everything fresh.
SPEAKER_00:Totally. But that is like such a sacred moment to me, like in the morning. Um, and partially because I love coffee and it's like super cozy, but it's also like we me and John like we start the day with like connection, you know? We're connected to each other, we're like on the same page before all the stuff kicks in and starts. And I really like that. I think um a lot of times I'll you know spend time like writing or praying or reading, like in the morning, like when it's in those quiet kind of moments in the beginning of the day. I used to be very much like jump up out of bed and like immediately launch into whatever I'm doing, and that is just not a good strategy for my brain to work really well throughout the whole day. So now I start the day like slow and quiet and focused, and that helps me to be focused and organized and uh present, you know, the whole rest of the day and not just like rolled into a ball of chaos from the very beginning. So that's a really big one. And I do think that all of the all the elements of that experience every day are things that I would expand more if I felt like I had the time to do it, right? So and kind of going back to the whole thing of like, well, I've got bills to pay, like the reason that that is such a motivator is because there's we have we find so much immediate purpose in that, right? It's like a logical, logistical purpose. It's like, oh, you have purpose in your life. Yeah, so it's really so it's really motivating. Bills. But thinking about because you're like, well, I want a roof over my head. Yeah, I want to have food to cook. If I have time to cook dinner, like I've got to be able to afford it. You know, it's like that's a real like consideration, um, I think for most people. And so I think um Um like kind of what you're saying, Glenn, feeling like freedom is such a huge motivator, but at the same time, what that that leads directly into like, well, if you have all this freedom and you don't have these kind of logistical motive motivators, this logistic purpose to keep your life running with money that makes your life go around, like what is your purpose? You know, what purpose is gonna drive you to help you decide and figure out what to do with that freedom? And I think that really is like the deeper question. So, you know, and and we kind of like were talking about briefly about some of these things earlier, but even financially, there's still a whole bunch of things you could focus on and set goals around and achieve, or you could always buy a bigger house, again, always buy a bigger or like support causes you care about, take care of other people who don't necessarily fall directly in your purview of care right now, you know? Like um, I don't know, there's just so many considerations. But I think ultimately it's not really about like what are the things you could accomplish. It's more just like what are the ways you would choose to spend your time? And and would you still be motivated to like generate um as much income as you can in order to achieve those type of things? Or would you go and like physically build someone a house with your own two hands? Or would you you know spend way more quality time with every person that you love? Like, what would you do? You know? You gotta answer right now.
SPEAKER_02:Well, I think oh man, I mean it is tough too. I'm throwing it all at you. I know, and even going back to your other question, I guess with like the freedom part, I also feel like there was freedom there, but as a content creator, there wasn't freedom as well, in a way. Like, I know me and Ken had done like Wednesday shows for like years straight. Forever of live shows, and like even then, like our you know, the video that I posted recently just on IG, there's still a comment I get these all the time of like I do the live show, like when is the live show coming back?
SPEAKER_03:And like you guys don't know we were in a podcast now, like aren't listening to the podcast, like get on.
SPEAKER_02:And the thing is that it kind of sucks too because we had done this for so long and you build this like community as well, and you want to be there for these people, but at the same time, like I also have to be there for my family and want to be there for my family. So it's like you're free, but you're not really free when you're rushing home getting a Wednesday live video going or live show going, and it's uh it's a tough little little balance there.
SPEAKER_00:Like Yeah, that's a really good point. Like, even if your financial resources were unlimited, you still have other limited resources like your time and your attention, and you know, like you still have to prioritize things because you can't be everywhere at once forever.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I think one of the things that I watched this um I watched this documentary film um Um Living Oh, it was it's on Netflix, you guys should watch it. Uh I don't know if I told Glenn. It's uh it's this guy that so he pretty much did like biking across the world basically and accomplished that and he was still young. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He bike across continents basically. And he accomplished that. And then he was like, now what?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Right? And now what? So he's stuck in uh and then a lot of it, uh a lot of his life was all about like breaking records. And he was the first one to do everything. So now like there's no record to break. And and he basically said like, you know, and then he's really passionate about like being healthy. Obviously he had, you know, some benefits on what he did that made him break records. So now he f stumbled upon upon like you know, people living beyond a hundred. So he create he made a documentary film about people living beyond a hundred, a hundred years old. And he went they called him the blue zone, like places where there's high higher concentration concentration of people that made it over a hundred. Yeah. And it was so like diverse. Like one was in up in the mountains of Japan, one one was like uh um right by the beaches of like Greece area.
SPEAKER_00:Heck yeah.
SPEAKER_03:One is actually in Nevada.
SPEAKER_00:What?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, and I was so surprised, right?
SPEAKER_00:The other one was El Paso, right?
SPEAKER_03:No, one was in um it's like uh Colombia or something like that. It's like South America, and it's like poor of poor. And I'm like, so it was like in and it was so weird and a lot of it too, it was like I i it caught me um in in Japan and remember I I I told this uh I gave this word before, Ikigai. Yeah, your the reason for being, and it was it's one of like the four pillars that they attribute why they live over a hundred. And it's like okay, let's unpack this. Why why? So a a lot of what they said because their life had so much purpose on it that a lot of people depended on them. So it brings me to a point of like being an artist or being an artisan or being a craftsman. So there's this guy that has made swords for his whole life, and now he's a hundred years old still making swords. Wow. So his purpose is like I have to be here for this community so they'll have great quality swords. They need more swords. Yeah, and I'm like, and he, you know, and then the guys the guy puts his uh crosses his legs, right? Like sitting cross leg and can push up, carry himself up and like push, push up, well, cross legs. He's a hundred years old. Just beast.
SPEAKER_00:I mean even a blacksmith that feels like you have to do it. Right, right.
SPEAKER_03:So and then it's like, no, now it goes back to like you know, find finding your purpose beyond money because they have said that yeah, it is beyond just making money, it has to be so much deeper rooted that you have a function in a community and you have to be there for people. Right? So like how you know what does purpose look like to us or to you guys that are listening, how do you find it? Um I've uh I've read um one of the authors said if you cannot state your purpose in a few words, then your purpose isn't clear.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:And I it probably took me a year. It took me a year, and it keeps that this is the one ho honing thing that I repeat again over and over again to myself, that there's more to it than just making money, paying off the bills. Um and I created mine. It was I wanna I wanna create opportunities for other people to pursue their passion. So I caught that when I started my Instagram because I shared my story. It's like, yo, here's an opportunity so you could make money, pay the bills, and pursue what you love. And it held so long until it starts fading. Yeah. That maybe the impact doesn't feel as significant as what it was then, that now it's not as tangible as what it was. So how do you find purpose? Glenn, what do you think? What what would be what's your uh synthesize here?
SPEAKER_02:I mean I agree with you and I feel like you know, you when you same thing, you hit certain milestones and you are excited about it, but also realizing that things change. And that's or also you have to make that pivot or and how do you pivot, maybe when things like that do change. And you know, like what I said before too, there's people that I would see and what was it even like two months ago? It was like, Oh, you're hustler hacks, or like, oh yeah. Like, you know, there's some guy that I saw at one of the sneaker stores, and then uh he's like, Oh, yeah, I used to watch you like in high school or whatever. Wow. Like, oh okay, cool. And so for me, like I don't get offended when people say like I used to watch you. Right, right, right. The thing is, is that you know, like there's so many like YouTubers I used to watch that I don't even know what they're doing now, you know, because times do change because you change as a as a human. And so there's even where like, you know, talking to like John, like Anna's John, you know, talking about music and like bands and things like that, like, you know, do you listen to the same bands that you listened to in 2009? Maybe, maybe not. Are those bands still going? Yes. Are those bands still going or not?
SPEAKER_00:Do I listen to their newest music or do I listen to their music?
SPEAKER_02:They're always, yeah, exactly, right?
SPEAKER_03:That's it. You never do listen to the newest, right? You always on that one. Oh she might incriminate herself.
SPEAKER_00:I'm just a crotchety old lady that likes what I liked.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I like what I like. And is that is that mean to say, like, well, I don't listen to your I haven't or I used to listen to you.
SPEAKER_00:I used to listen to you.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:I listened to yester you.
SPEAKER_02:Alright. But things change, right?
SPEAKER_03:So what do you think? Yeah, what's what's a deeper purpose beyond just because like right, like I think that's it's way less talked about. About like I I feel like the most responsible people are the ones that provide for their family and pay the bills. I'm like, that's it.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, right. I mean, I think when you love your family and you love your people, like that's extremely motivating, right? You feel that burden of of responsibility, like you're saying, but but also like I think this has been really true for me, and really it goes also back to my friends Aaron and Ryan that you were talking about, Ken, who have the smokehouse smoked pepper jelly. We should link to their store in the show notes because it's so good. But um, they are a people, a couple of people. They are a people, they're not like a whole people group themselves, but both of them they have a family, you know, they have kids and um lots of other family members that they care about, and um like they have a really strong sense of family, but they are both each of them, Aaron and Ryan, are both like very multi-passionate, multi-purpose people. Like Ryan, I don't know if you know this, Ken, or if you talk to them about it, but Ryan is like an incredible architect. That's actually what he's trained as.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah, that's what he said, right? He went to school for a year.
SPEAKER_00:And he he's really really passionate about it, you know. And Aaron is like a world-class tap dancer, like like absolutely mind-blowing, award-winning, incredible tap dancer.
SPEAKER_03:And she didn't like she didn't pursue it to make money. No, because there are other things like she I I've heard her say that. Yeah, and she had a whole other career besides that too. Before she has to kind of like she wants to be the a mom for the kids, and that's pretty much something that you know it's not you some there's a lot of things that you can't do both together. There has to be a trade-off.
SPEAKER_00:But I do think I think that's really interesting, and maybe somewhat comes down to like worldview a little bit. Like for me, definitely like faith ties into this because I'm I'm the same way. Like, I've I've been I've had a more sequential sense of purpose where I feel like I've had multiple purposes, and I don't think it's all just revolves around like what you do. Right. But like for me personally, you know, something I fundamentally believe is that like God has a purpose for my life, God has a plan for my life, and so I don't know what that looks like from one year to the next or from one phase of life to the next, but I'm like totally fine with it changing over time, I guess. And in my experience, like it has changed over time, and I think that's for me, like it totally rings true that that's just part of growing and developing, you know, not just like in a spiritual formation way, but just as a human being, like we do grow and change, and our priorities change and our situations change and our social circles change, our abilities change, like everything is always changing. So, why would we have to limit ourselves to like one purpose that is supposed to have all the pressure of carrying us through our whole life in every situation? And yet, I know other people who are like the kind of people who are like, I've wanted to be a doctor since I was five years old, and I'm gonna see patients on the day I die. Yeah, like I mean, that is true for for some people. That's not how I but there's room for that too.
SPEAKER_03:There is a self-awareness on that, and I think I know for I know for for a fact, like when I was young, I wanted to be a pilot, and then now I just want to sit behind a pilot. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_01:Like nah, you can you can drive, you got this, right?
SPEAKER_03:Like, I'll just pay you. I like I don't wanna I don't know how to you know I don't want to figure out how to park this. Um but but knowing that right, like what's what's other something bigger? Or or is it do we have to shift our perspective to kind of like you know like the sentiment of like okay it fades away. Does it fade away because we don't condition our mind to actually keep like appreciating it or appreciating the impact that you actually make in each step? For example, right, like like Glenn, our journey of our hustled, like we literally hand in hand help people, you know, take their you know, take their family to Disney, pay off certain debts, and 3x their business hand in hand, and we have numbers to prove and you know we've seen improvements, but at that very moment it felt like the purpose was so clear and it was right in front of us. But the moment we we stopped doing that or we move on to bigger things or different things, did we just not try to even quantify things, or do we just not try to expose ourselves like yo, like your hi and hello to this person appreciating this impacted his family because he went home in a great mood and all of a sudden it elevated them, or that inspiration that you've done paying your student loan inspired me too, then it elevated their family, you know. Like I think we those are the things that we don't see, or if we don't seek it out, or if we don't track it, or if we don't look at it at that lens, we're probably just too busy. I was like, Oh, I need to pay my bills so I can make content so I could inspire people. But what if it's about like make content and discover the people that gets impacted and possibly benefits the content that I made? I feel like just throwing your art out there, and correct me if I'm wrong, throw your art out there, throw your creative things, and you just there has to point that you sit back and actually look at people's reaction to the art that you have made and appreciate that reaction, although you didn't make the art for the reaction, but I'm just saying like tracing the impact that it made.
SPEAKER_00:I think you I think m most of the time people who at least in any kind of consistent way, right, make art or create anything, like everything to some degree is is created to be shared. Like, do we have our own private poetry or something that we write, or are we doing something just because we enjoy it, not because it's we're trying to monetize it? Yes, of course, but like I think that's hardwired into us as humans too. That like if we make something most of the time for most intents and purposes, it's to be shared. And like that is that there is like an inherent purpose in that, not necessarily like doing it for the likes, right?
SPEAKER_03:Right, but doing it for the fuel that gets back to you, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Otherwise, wouldn't you have just like so many artists across many different disciplines of art just being like, I'm just gonna make this because I like it and just keep it in my closet. Like, you know, like no, it's it's meant to be experienced, like that's the point.
SPEAKER_03:And that's yeah, that's I feel like that's the pinnacle of you know, like when when you're trying to create an impact, I feel like the the the ultimate goal is to actually have people enjoy it and get affected positively by it.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Um, and I feel like that's what I feel like we lose the vision we start. Is that like too focused on the on the product that we lose the eyes to see the enjoyment of the product in people's hands?
SPEAKER_02:Well, I think the the I guess maybe the issue is is just how quickly things go by. And so like I appreciated everything that we had done and the people that we had met and the workshops we have done, but it's also like when's the next one?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, it's like not gonna hold you that that moment in time is not gonna like hold you.
SPEAKER_03:It's easy to trap if it was repeatable, right? Because now all of a sudden it's like, oh, we'll just get the next 50 people in. But what if we live a life on kind of like what we live right now, that there's pivots make, right? So so let's just say you're in a one category and you're impacting impacting so many people in this category, and then now you shift category, you shift platform, kind of like Glenn shifting to whatnot. Now all of a sudden that same impact is hard to track the same way he tracked the eBay impact. Yeah. The only easy w the easiest factor to track it is money. But the impact of people is hard. Yeah. Right? It is because it's not the same formula. You have to create another formula of trying to appreciate the impact that you're doing in a different platform selling different products.
SPEAKER_02:It's just like a different it's a totally different ballgame there. And and man, going to like the workshops and everything is really, really cool. But how many times, like I remember going to the San Diego one, and they're like, when are you coming to Miami? Like, when are you coming to Seattle? When are you going to New York? And when you're you're in Ken gonna be here, and you know, you do want to do all of these things, but at the same time, you know, like Ken said too, is like financially too, and your own health and then your own family, and there's so many factors that come into play as well that you gotta see what you wanna you wanna help as much people as you can, or meet as many people as you can, and you know, have that have that experience. But time when also I want to think about like 2018-2019, when people are looking for side hustles, and that's something that they could you know, relate to when they see Ken's IG or my videos, and they're like, hey, I can I can get into this, I can do this, and then more people start to catch on, and then 2020 happens, and then things change there, and then the market changes, you know, 2022, and then it's not so inspirational selling sneakers. Yeah, you know, how many people how many people went back to work, or how many people were like, Well, maybe the side hustle isn't really working for me right now, like maybe I can do this instead, and then you know they pivot to something else, and so you know, as I guess we mentioned Gary Vee earlier, might as well mention him again, where it says market is the market is the market, and so when that changes too, you know, things are gonna change in general for you, if you're I guess when it comes to that business side of things.
SPEAKER_03:But that's how does your purpose change, Anna, on that one?
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Should your purpose change or should you shift something?
SPEAKER_00:I think like just thinking about working within the realm of reality, like this whole thing is a hypothetical question, but working in the realm of reality. It could be real.
SPEAKER_03:It's real for this guy soon.
SPEAKER_00:I think I think the I think our bias as people is to more or less assume that things are way more permanent than they are. So, you know, it's like like you're saying, the market can change, like we're always changing, our situation is changing.
SPEAKER_03:Like I think it's like someone can pass away. I mean, yeah, right. And and that's and talking about that, Anna, and I think this is contrast view to what you just said. A lot of people think it's permanent, but the more I think that things are not permanent, the more I feel like crap, my time's running out. So that's what I that's what that sentiment is coming from for me, the way I see it. Yeah. Crap, I only have 40 good years.
SPEAKER_00:Well, that's pessimistic. I'm not gonna hit a hundred. You're not gonna go make swords in the mountains of Japan and do like push-ups and things.
SPEAKER_03:No, like good years of being able to run. Yeah, you know, like um, oh well, I'm gonna break a record. I'm gonna run when I'm a hundred.
SPEAKER_00:There you go. Now you have a new purpose. You better start training.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. So uh, and I think that's that's the two-polar opposite thinking still gets you in that question.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, and I I feel like I guess something I kind of fundamentally believe about people is that we it benefits us to have a purpose, to have a goal, even if that changes throughout time. Yeah, you know, and sometimes like some of us are living our best life and we don't want things to ever change, but they're going to at some point. Even like you're talking about running. Someday you won't be able to run like you can run.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, but we sometimes we don't realize that this is the best life.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, sometimes we don't. But I think that ability to kind of adapt and identify a new purpose, or or if not a new purpose, maybe the same purpose, but channeled a different way with a with a different goal or in a different setting, like I think that is a really important ability for people to have because more times than not, things end up changing, you know? So I don't know. I feel like whether you're somebody who struggles with like feeling stagnant or um I don't know, or not, like probably if you I this is best measured in hindsight, right? Like look back to your life 10 years ago. Even Glenn, I was thinking, like, look back to when you paid off your student loans. At that time, were you already thinking like, well, maybe I should have just paid off my house first instead? Or like, you know, like were you thinking I'm gonna apply this like way bigger and better and hit this other goal, this other unbelievable goal at a super young age, right? Like, for like this is super highly unusual what you're doing paying off your house and the age you are and the amount of time you've owned the house and everything. And you're basically just applying the same principles and the same purpose and the same motivation and the same consistency as per usually to achieve that. Um and so anyway, you know, when you were when you were looking into paying off your loans in the first place, did you ever imagine you'd be doing this now and already? And can you see an even bigger and better version of this now?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, okay. And sort of that, Glenn. Did you think when you decide like oh I'm gonna make double payments? I'm gonna make a few more.
SPEAKER_00:Let me ask you four questions and you can answer all of them.
SPEAKER_02:Well, when I paid off the student loans, I didn't have a house yet. So I didn't actually didn't really know. Yeah, or like how how I was even gonna go from there, or like what that even really looked like. And even me getting the house, even though the the houses were a lot cheaper back then, like uh and interest rates and everything, I didn't really know to what extent of like how difficult that would actually be and how many payments you really needed to make. And I I I even thought the whole idea of like 30-year loans was already kind of crazy. I'm like, Yeah, it's so long. Yeah, it's super long, like so much. How much changes in 30 years?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Like I don't want this house after 30 like five years, it's like after then I don't want this.
SPEAKER_01:You know, crash out. No.
SPEAKER_02:So even that whole idea was kind of like shocking to me too. But um, yeah, I guess I didn't know. But even then, to me, whatever I made money-wise at that time to pay off the student loans felt like a lot to me.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:You know, and that's totally different than what it is now. So I didn't remember.
SPEAKER_00:But it was still a sacrifice, right?
SPEAKER_02:Like Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, sacrifice is part of his daily routine.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Sacrifice part of his daily routine.
SPEAKER_00:Wake up, deny yourself.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Eat and then sacrifice more.
SPEAKER_00:Actually, you do. I remember you talking about how you would like, I don't know if you would ship stuff or you'd go and do something first and then have breakfast. Yeah, you get in your you fully get in your car and drive somewhere before you let yourself eat breakfast.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, yeah, that's true. Is that still true? No, no, I haven't done that in a while. That's not good. This guy's gotta eat. So hardcore. I know.
SPEAKER_03:Um but yeah, I guess uh as I guess in closing, um I think that's the I think that's the ultimate challenge in life. I think that's um you know, we've we've heard you know, people say like the the pri the journey is the price, right? The I think Kobe said that right, like I think the reward is the journey to actually get to do what you love to do, excel in what you love to do. But I think also in his situation, that was very it seemed very lateral or very straight line because it's like a very it was at the end of the day it was career, right? It was a career-driven move. Um but for small business owner or people that are not in a lane like I uh to be honest, I'm I'm not that kind of person. I mean, as you've noticed, me and Glenn said, like, okay, we're here in eBay selling Ross, and we're not gonna be like, we're gonna sell Ross all for the rest of our lives and stay there and then just you know wait till they use our photos to be the model of Ross. Like we we didn't swear there are people who think your name is Ross. I know that yeah, there is, you know, so so I think that's in Marshall. That's the biggest Burlington, yeah. Burlington. Yeah. Uh that that's like the the biggest challenge in and I don't I mean there's there's no easy answer.
SPEAKER_00:I think let me ask you this way, Ken. Just full circle back to our actual original question. If money were like if all your bills were paid, right? And beyond, would you still be doing what you're doing? But I don't want you to think about it like would you still be selling sneakers on the internet? I want you to think, would you still be creating opportunities for people to pursue their passions?
SPEAKER_03:I would. I I I I I actually know the answer. Like like I would do every I would do everything that I said I love still. Probably in bigger scopes, probably build bigger aquariums and go to other people's house and build them aquariums so they could find, you know, like some solace in their house in that kind of artistic way. And then I would actually would want to work on cars all day and videotape it and teach tutorials on how to change parts and brakes. That I feel like that's that's that's the next. Yeah. Um from here to there, I don't know.
SPEAKER_00:Would you uh would you still be doing what you're doing and what is it that you're doing?
SPEAKER_02:Well if I could sell an eBay and whatnot forever, I would be very, very happy. I mean that wouldn't that doesn't, you know I think that's it still gives me that freedom that that I want to do. Um but then even after doing this, like I don't know, is like my next thing to since freedom was my goal from the beginning, is my next thing. Now you're free teaching people. Now you're free, what do you do? Yeah, to have them reach that freedom. Yeah, like to teach them like maybe the steps that I had taken to like get to this point and maybe people want to do that as well. Or is it one of those like give back type of things to where like Anna said too, do I give back in a certain way that's totally different now too that I'd never been able to do before because I was so you know in that grind to reach this goal. So I just feel like I'm not done yet, I guess.
SPEAKER_00:Like what does a whole bean glen look like? I know. Before the grind. Before the grind.
SPEAKER_02:Before the grind. And it is it is kind of tough because you you reach a goal to where like, cool, you have like the YouTube plaque and you got all these subs, and like that was very If you look at how many people have a YouTube plaque compared to how many people have a college degree, the stats are very, very low on the getting a YouTube plaque is very, very you know, hard to get to that. And so I almost feel too if I don't do anything with it, you do feel kind of like it's a waste. Like you built something and then what do you do when it hits to a certain point?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, you built a car that you love and you don't drive it, you just put in your garage. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So you gotta take it to a car store.
SPEAKER_00:I'm not suggesting that you do this, but I could also see you getting one of those like squirrel suits where you can jump off of like mesas and glide around in the air and like become an adrenaline junkie because of the whole freedom thing. Like maybe you need a season where you experience extremely visceral freedom, like floor.
SPEAKER_03:You do like extreme sports, Glenn, like rally, like motocross or bike. I mean you have to live a little.
SPEAKER_02:All before breakfast. I could see myself more of like a raccoon and going through the trash and trying to find stuff to resell.
SPEAKER_03:You're gonna be the uh the what do you call the the dumpster divers that gets uh man that gets caught, right? And then you they and then you make a video out of it.
SPEAKER_00:They're super fun to watch.
SPEAKER_02:Uh what are you doing, sir? Well, I'm financially free and uh I really don't know what to do.
SPEAKER_00:And to be in this dumpster or funsies. My purpose is here somewhere in this dumpster.
SPEAKER_03:I have yet to meet a person who's like, hey, what do you do? Um financially free. Whatever I want. That's a that's a random what do you do for a living? What do you mean? Um financially free.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. I think even having the option to do whatever you want is still gonna fall flat if you don't have a sense of purpose, honestly.
SPEAKER_03:That's why a lot of people go to like, you know, do negative things in life. Yeah because they think it's there, right? Like the high, the the abuse of substance and stuff like that, because they think it's there. But yeah, we all know it's super temporary. Yeah, it has to be like deeper impact and purpose beyond yourself. I feel like your purpose and goals have to be way bigger than that. Maybe if it's big enough, then if you bought a house expensive enough that you cannot pay it off on your lifetime, then the journey is definitely the price.
SPEAKER_02:Pay the next goal to pay for it.
SPEAKER_03:Not you know, leave and then Glenn Glenn does it in like half of the time. I was like, dang it. Mike's like, sir, um, we can't grant you a loan because um it's really past your livable age, but it's time the loan matures.
SPEAKER_02:Right? You mentioned about being over a hundred, so my grandma's gonna be one oh two.
SPEAKER_00:Whoa, whoa, don't underestimate me.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:That's what I'm saying, right?
SPEAKER_02:Like you in two months my grandma will be 102.
SPEAKER_00:Oh my gosh. There you go. There you go.
SPEAKER_02:So I don't know, uh I mean nobody knows how long they're gonna live, but that is uh man, to go over a hundred is insane.
SPEAKER_03:And your grandma still can talk, right?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Everything she just got a hip replacement at a hundred yeah, they're rebuilding her like a terminator.
SPEAKER_00:She is titanium.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, so like this is Wow. Well, I mean, what is your life purpose when you hit a hundred?
SPEAKER_00:You Glenbionic.
SPEAKER_03:This is what you need to do. You need to ask you need to talk to your grandma and ask her, like, hey grandma, what got you to a hundred too?
SPEAKER_02:What uh got you to this point? Yeah. Well, she actually got diabetes when she was late 30s.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, weird.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:And so she had So everything was health-wise, it was against her, but something. She has a secret. Just a secret, Glen. You gotta figure it out.
SPEAKER_02:Health-wise was not there, and it's kind of funny though, when when they did tell her that you're diabetic, she quit all of that food that she was supposed that she was eating and just went all in on like, okay, well, I'm gonna take care of myself from here on out.
SPEAKER_00:Wow.
SPEAKER_02:And has lasted, you know, since then.
SPEAKER_00:Did she like reverse it?
SPEAKER_02:Well, I mean, yeah, and it's it's crazy. I mean, she did, but she stayed so like persistent in discipline, like Ken said, like after that.
SPEAKER_03:That so it's so it's in Glenn's blood. I was gonna say, so Glenn got it from his grandma.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's broke. No tin. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:That's incredible. And those weeks. 100 something. But Wow. From 30 to 102, she's 70 years. Yeah. She said no to things that could physically harm her, basically.
SPEAKER_02:And lived an extra 40 years after my grandpa passed away.
SPEAKER_00:Wow.
SPEAKER_02:Because he died at 65, which is like pretty young. Oh, wow.
SPEAKER_00:Wow, that is young.
SPEAKER_02:And still lived, you know, how much.
SPEAKER_03:So it wasn't it wasn't the getting married, uh, all the single people, it's not the getting married part that gets you to hundred to a hundred.
SPEAKER_02:Well, one last question though for you guys, though. Let's talk about legacy real quick though, because you mentioned legacy on here though. I mean what is a legacy? What is legacy?
SPEAKER_00:How to drop a Hamilton line in there for you guys.
SPEAKER_02:And I feel like for I mean I do want, of course, like my daughter to be proud and things that like her dad has done. Yeah. So, you know, as like sellers or having your own business, and that's that's important for a legacy too. Like, hey, I I did this on my own, and I mean through the of course the platform of eBay, but you know, it's not easy doing any of this, and being whether you're a seller or a content creator.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Um, but let me ask you guys, I guess, for legacy-wise, or maybe there is a deer a bigger thing that you want to do that has nothing to do with this. I mean, I don't know. What does that legacy look like? Before we go.
SPEAKER_03:No, I think I think one of the things that I want to do is like a really light question. I know no, I think this is heavy. I think I I think I've I've had it in my back of my head. Hopefully my parents are not listening. I wanna talk to them someday and be like, like, what's something that you really want to get done before you kick the bucket and and just make it happen and make it happen.
SPEAKER_00:That's cool.
SPEAKER_03:And um, I know for a fact, I don't know if it's still the same that one of my mom's um dream is to have an orphanage for like the the orphans. Um so like I already know like that's gonna be a good one. Ken's Christmas kids. That's gonna be a tough one, you know, like and and I feel like if I shift to that focus, boy, do I have a purpose.
SPEAKER_00:I was like, you will never let go.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, boy. Right, next thing you know, I'll have you know a bunch of little kids calling me Uncle Ken, you know what I'm saying? And then like now I'll have all these kids. So, you know, like I think that's I think that that's that's legacy for me. It has to be I feel like it has to be something not just mine that I buy into it, that it's so big that yeah, I'd have to have somebody else finish it too. Yeah. So that's legacy.
SPEAKER_00:And to like continue, right? Like to prevent Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:It can't be like a one and done thing, right? Because at that point it's like you don't really you know, like nobody you know, nobody remembers you at that point, right? Like uh it's like there has to be like something long-term effect, which is like impact, right? Like, next thing you know, these kids grow up and they start supporting the cost because they they got out of that, you know, uh thing. So that's that I feel like that's legacy in and I feel like we all have to figure that out.
SPEAKER_00:And I think I do feel like there's a financial piece of it still for me, like for our family. Like we don't have kids yet, but we want to, and like when we got married, we we had like nothing, you know, like we didn't like.
SPEAKER_03:Oh my kids are gonna have nothing like I did. Like I'm gonna that's the legacy.
SPEAKER_00:No, but like I think the idea, not just like generational wealth in terms of money, but also in terms of like I don't know, like the life lessons and the entrepreneurship piece of it, like handing down something that they can pick up and use, not just like a chunk of money, but a chunk of money would also be nice. You know, but I think just kind of having the our the next generation of our family start out with more resources and more stability than we had is really important to me. But I think like that's not even as big as my whole entire sense of legacy for my life. I mean, as broadly speaking as I can, like I want people's lives to be brighter and improved in some way because I w interacted with them in some way, you know, that's extremely vague, but um, I just think there's a lot of room for like that kind of purpose to be worked out um in my relationships with people. I think relationship is the most important thing. So there are definitely other secondary goals that relate to that, but it only matters because people matter. So that's kind of what it comes down to.
SPEAKER_02:Got it. Alright. So that is it. And that was a longer show.
SPEAKER_00:We made it, guys.
SPEAKER_03:We made it. We made it. So, guys, make sure you follow us on Instagram at SellerClub Podcast, and also our sponsors, Seller Ledger and eBay for Sellers and IG. Link in the description. And also we're inviting you to an event that's gonna be happening this month. RSVP down. Click below. Let's support Reflections of Trinity with our good friend Laurie Wong. Speaking of legacy, see you. Speaking of legacy, that is a legacy right there. And uh, we will see you in the next one. Peace. See ya.
SPEAKER_00:Bye.